Episode 151 - Topics We Pretend To Know

Michael, Peter & Mathias discuss pretending to know things for social work settings

Transcript

Cold Open And Chaos

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The podcast that's about nothing and everything.

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This is Let's Ramble.

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Ah, get out. Started choking straight away.

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That's what we provide.

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I've got so excited.

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What a great welcome to the podcast.

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Yeah, honestly, what a slay. We're back. The chokers weekly. Chokers Weekly. That sounds like such a like Y2K thing. Like just all the all the ladies with their chokers. Because they were so popular. Not where I went. I'm like, oh, that problematic time. Everyone was into choking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, great end intro, I guess.

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And we're done.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Thanks so much for listening. I think I can hear the plane going over through the through the headset.

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No, I can just hear the plane through the window that's behind you. Maybe it's the window. That might be yes. Windows. How's everyone

Summer Break And Body Talk

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been? Good.

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Yeah. Up and down. Yeah. Yeah, it's been it's been the time. Because it's been about six years since we last recorded.

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Yeah, do you know what? I think we just skipped summer. Um, because this room gets so hot and it now having cooled down, it makes sense to be back in this room. Good point. So that's the excuse. We took summer break.

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We yeah, we we took summer off.

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Hot girl summer.

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Bright summer.

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We um worked out all year round.

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Okay. We uh worked on our physiques. I don't know. Yeah, I got fatter. Oh that's uh you didn't. You're looking great. I did the opposite. Yeah.

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And you're there. Okay, good job.

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Wow. Yeah. Where am I at the moment? Tourist tourist, extra small. Wow.

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I I did lose some weight. I think I'm I'm turning back to big putting on weight again. Oh, that's that's what people say, turning back to putting on weight again. Yeah.

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Turning back. You don't look like you're putting on like fat. You look like you're putting on a bit of muscle. That's the plan. Thank you for saying that. Without prompting me. Well that's true.

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Have you been doing like weights? I have. I have. Oh, what kind of weights? Ones made of metal. Small ones.

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He'd look a little bit more filled out if they were big.

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Yeah, I'm not trying to I don't want to get like a beefy boy. Yeah, you don't look like me. No. Right. Just going for that swimmer's body. Yeah, I don't want that Venice beach to look like you got.

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I just want, you know.

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I'm full like rugby mode with my rugby top on and my beef cake.

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It even says athletic division.

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So you must be athletic to wear something like that. You have to be athletic.

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Oh, yeah, obviously.

Getting Weirdly Into Golf

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Well, I mean, speaking of athletic, uh, we in the past three months have severely gotten into golf.

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We don't want to bore the listener with golf talk.

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The one listener. Hi Ash, how's it going? Um but we uh we've really gotten into golf recently.

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Can I just also say we definitely don't want to bore Ash with golf talk?

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No, no, no. Um, but what I will say sounds like an in-joke. I'm like, oh yeah, not Ash. No, it's uh it's kind of like everyone in our lives knows how much we talk about golf and no one else cares. Um so no, I will I've forgotten what I wanted to say about cricket.

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When dads talk about cricket and everyone else just switches off.

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Well, see, this is the thing, right? Everyone has that sport thing that they enjoy. I like cricket. Um I hate when people talk about AFL. Like, I can't stand it. I don't want to hear about it, I don't care, I don't follow it. And every time you speak to anyone, they're like, Who do you follow in the AFL?

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Oh, especially, yeah, when when we're at industry stuff, it's all like, oh, who do you follow? You follow the AFL closely.

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It's either AFL when you're in these states or NRL when you're in the other states. Right. And it's like, mate, I don't care. I don't want to watch sweaty men tackle each other. I want to watch sweaty men alone on the golf course or in their race cars. Okay, here's a question. You're always Googling that, in fact.

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It's on that um other one. What's that other one? Some dark thing. No, I don't know, anyway.

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See, I prefer solo than uh group stuff.

Bluffing Your Way Through Sport

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Stop.

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Um uh no, on on that topic, like AFL and that kind of stuff, and that type of thing being brought up whenever you're meeting someone new. Is there something that like that you are an absolute ace at uh fumbling your way through? Like what what's the topic that someone can talk about that you just have enough knowledge to sound like you're an expert?

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Uh so I have the actual experience in this. Oh, here we go. Uh it's uh supercars. So I have I've never actually followed supercars before, right? Like it's never been like I like motorsport, but but it's other than F1, I don't follow. But I knew enough of supercars that at my previous job there was a guy in the office who I actually really enjoyed talking to, but he was a die hard supercars fan. And I knew just enough names, teams, and like where about their skill level was that he could come to me and I could fumble my way through like a half an hour conversation about how the season's going, yeah, right. Solely based on what I think is actually happening. And almost saying some of the generic stuff, like, oh, but I really want so-and-so to do well. But it got me through like uh like the t 10-15 conversations throughout the year of 2023 where me and this guy built such great rapport, and I honestly knew half the time zero of what he was talking about.

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That's so common though, like especially in I think when you come to workplace situations, it's such an odd thing because the the introductory phrase, especially amongst older generations, used to be like, Who do you barrack for? Yeah, yeah. And I saw like Azuma be completely bewildered by they didn't even know what barrack for meant. They're like, it's such a different thing. But no, I was at a record fair, and this guy, just apropos of nothing, is just one of these record uh crate digger nerds who was like, Hey, um, do you love all this death metal of this band or this composer? Like he had a really encyclopedic knowledge of us, everything that came up, and I just had enough of a passing knowledge of music generally to be like, yeah, like I I I have heard of this band, so I'm like, Yeah, they've got albums, and he's like, You're so right, they do have albums.

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Um I think that final, yeah, just like start throwing out like random words.

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See, but I actually hate when when I know an artist, but someone's like, What's your favorite album of them? Or what's your favorite song? I genuinely don't remember songs or album names, but then I'll talk to someone like Reese, yeah, and he knows album, he'll know where that song was on that album. Like he has that type of knowledge where I'm like, Yeah, I've heard of the band, I like the band. You ask me to name my favourite song, done.

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I I can't no, I'm the same. I know one album name. Yeah.

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Spice up your life.

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No, no, oh okay, maybe two. Um, that was Spice World, but anyway, um, it's like um Alanus, like Jagged Little Pill. Jagged Little Pill. Jagged Little Pill. But I can't tell. I I can if I hear the song, I can know which album of hers it's on.

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Yeah, because you always struggle to remember her second or other album. Supposed former infatuation junkie. Junkie there. There you go.

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Oh, it sounds like it's in the right, it's those four words, but I could say any four words, and you'd be like, Junkies at the end.

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Lemon tart strudel balls. No, no, no. Dude, that was my favourite.

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Yeah,

Wine Talk Without Knowing Wine

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love us. The two for me is AFL. Like, I just sort of catch enough of it like on TV.

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I've seen you in those conversations, you nail it so well. Nice.

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And um the other one, I'm getting better at NRL. I am getting better. Yes, you are getting better at NRL, which is good, uh, especially for my job. But the other one's wine. Nice, right? Wine tasting.

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These are all important adult things to be able to discuss.

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Because like I I I like wine, I know what I like. I like some some of the wines. Wow, I know what I don't like. When I'm looking at a wine list, but if I try and tell you now, Sauvignon Blanc's like, no, that's okay. Um, I'd prefer like uh Pinot Gris.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Pinot Gris. I'm with you on that, by the way. Um, but uh if someone says uh, oh, what's your favorite? Are we like I don't know, Temple and Webster? Oh, like which which like Temple and Webster is that furniture company. I love their wine. Oh, catch of the day. That came up. I'm a I'm a demon for Timu wine. Yeah. Um and then and then red wine, like I know enough. Like again, I know I like a Shiraz, a Cab Sav. I don't know.

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So I know enough to know I don't like red. That's right.

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Okay, see no, that's a good thing. That's a good thing.

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I don't know. What and like you've named a lot of wines just then. Yeah. The only colour that's a good one. Thank you to ask me. Wait till like Pinot Noir or whatever. Pinot Noir. Pinot Noir. That's the only one that I know is red. Sure. Nothing everything else, if you asked me colour, I would not be able to tell you.

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Wow, you don't see colour. How progressive. Um Malbec. I've been to the home of Malbec. Did you know white? Haven't I traveled to South America? I was familiar. No, not white.

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See, I don't know. No, that's red. This is the problem. I'm a huge beer drinker. I love beer. Yeah. But then thanks

Ordering Beer And Bar Fear

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for addressing your problem, actually.

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Um but I go up to a bar and literally we were drinking this morning at about 10 feet. There's vodka in that. There's reasons that we were drinking at 10 feet. It's it's Michael Miss Eve Eve. Yeah.

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Oh my god.

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That was a long time ago, Michael Miss. I just did a throwback just for continuity purposes.

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But whenever I walk up to a bar, if I don't see a brand name that I know, I'm like You just asked for the temple on Webster.

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I do the same thing. If there's a beer on tap I haven't had, I'm like, give me that, please. No, I don't do that because I know that's not a joke. That's what I'm doing.

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I know that there's like lager and pale and stuff, but I don't know which one I like. I keep forgetting. Because then the other day I I feel like it's lager that I like, but then I ordered a lager the other day and I was like, this tastes like garbage. But it could also just have been the beer, yeah, because it was their house tap beer.

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But I think a lager is what you like. I'm not a huge pale ale fan. I would say tails are a little bloatier, I think.

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I kind of say, but I'm not well, I don't know.

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I do like um dark beer. I'm I'm really appreciating the dark beer. But that's the thing. If you were like these are the the names, unless it says literally the word dark beer, good luck, Peter, because I have no idea.

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Stout. You know what stout is, right? Yeah, that's dark beer. Correct, correct.

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Yeah, but see, I would not have remembered that word. Like, this is the problem is that I don't remember.

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So you just go in and go, Do you have anything like a Guinness? No.

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But literally, the amount of times I've gone up to a bar and I go, just say, what is like a super dry? What is like this? And then I go, Oh, that one, please. And then I take a sip and I'm like, that's disgusting.

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Do you ask them?

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No, I get scared. Oh, you should.

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Because I I don't want to see the X, why they're not. I look at it. Half the time their teenagers don't care. They don't drink.

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This is the problem though, is every time I walk up to the colour. It's not a cruiser. I think that they're gonna card me and then think I'm not overage. Right. So what so what? It's like when you're buying anything that you need to be 18 or over for. I'm genuinely so concerned that if I'm awkward and go, Oh, what's like a good one? They're gonna be like, You're 16, get out. Yeah. And I'll be like in my work gear, wearing my lanyard, and my tattoos are on show, and they'll be like, nah, you're dressing up just like dad.

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Like that's one of those sleeves you bought off Timu. Yeah. Um, but so what? You've got ID. Just show them the ID for sorry, am I? 16?

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I also freak out if I have to show ID.

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I'm like, oh, I wouldn't if I was you, you're fine.

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Oh, wow. Thanks. No, there's a guy at my local who every time asks me, and I'm like, okay, at this point you're just flirting with me. Come on.

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He just wants your address.

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Can I say why I hate showing my ID? Why? Is it a bad photo? No, well, yes, I look like a criminal. Um, no, I've got it in my phone. That's not just your ID, honey. Stop.

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Orange jumpsuit in your ID photo.

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And that thing around your ankle.

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I've got it in my head that they're gonna look at the back of my license where it says special conditions, and because I have one hand, they're gonna be like, there's no special conditions there. This this is a fake license. I've taught like my brain is telling me that so hard. They're gonna look at you being one.

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And they're like, I couldn't fathom what your special condition might be.

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Well, because normally it would say a driving extension and it's a driver's license. Right. Michael's says glasses makes sense. It does. Other people's say glasses make sense. Mine says nothing because I'm I'm do you know what? I'm very, very lucky that I haven't needed to get an extension or uh like a thing for my car, but I'm like, they're gonna think this is fake. And I don't look under 18, but I'm terrified that that's gonna be their determination. Anyway, that's probably more about my problems than anything else.

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We're not we're not psychologists, Peter. This is a podcast. Then why am I laying on the couch? This is entertainment for other people. Um that was relatable, right?

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Anyone else with special conditions?

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Hey, anyone else got and uh super bad anxiety and you tell yourself a thing, drop a comment.

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I've

Loom Bands And Dropping The Act

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just noticed something uh in relation to that football discussion that on Peter's wrist is a like an AFL football team's what are those like bands called? Like a rubber band thing.

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Oh, like a Lance Armstrong sort of yeah, yeah, yeah.

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One of those.

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Oh, that that's a Richmond one, yeah.

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Oh, right. Sorry, other wrists.

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Can I tell you oh no, I won't tell that. I'm not gonna no, I don't want to share that story, but yeah, that's my prosthetic that's just hanging from the shelf.

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For some reason, Peter's prosthetic. I made that loom band bracelet is just sitting next to me within sort of a meter, just hanging from the shelf, looking like he's gripping on for dear life.

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Um and see that rip on the side for time. The grab was caused by Michael caused that rip. I didn't you did. Um, but that see that loom band bracelet, I made that. Uh but I so I couldn't afford uh the thing you needed to make the loom band bracelets, because you know Is a loom band bracelet essentially a friendship bracelet?

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No, it was it was the one the loom bands were those tiny little like elastic bands and he used to like really popular uh with all the teenage girls.

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Um but yeah, I was like 18. I don't ask anyway. I couldn't afford the thing to actually make the bracelets, but I could afford the bands because they were like two dollars from Kmart. So I found a stick in the backyard that kind of had the same prongs, and I sat there and made bracelets. And the fact that my mum didn't know that I was like a bit, you know, hacking. A little bit fancy. Yeah, I'm like my mum was making bracelets with a stick I found in the backyard.

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See, that's probably what you wore off because I was playing with sticks. Speaking of being a little bit fancy, I listening back, which I only just did just prior to this. Um, I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll listen to our own podcast. Um, do I sound a little bit zesty?

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Like I I can't tell anymore. Yeah, okay. I I've lost the ability to tell who sounds a little bit fancy. Right.

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Why are we going who sounds queer? You sound fancy when you're comfortable.

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Oh, I let the the facade drop, is that what you're saying?

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Like when I've when I've traveled with you, if we're talking to someone that you don't know, you do this, you go like yeah, and you drop like an octave. Yeah, okay. But then when you're happy, you're like me, where you get a bit higher pitch. Okay.

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I pitch up.

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Yeah. Okay, interesting. Well, I mean, nothing your voice. Right. Visually. Um but I feel like a lot of people like because I don't think it's such of like a zesty voice, more of just like some people like get excited when they're talking with friends and get a little bit hyped. Absolutely.

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But you know, I don't know that that's necessarily a queer person thing because I've seen I think that might be oh god, let's get deep about it. I think that might be like a male thing, how we're trained to be, and put up a front with other guys because I see straight guys front with other guys all the time. Yeah, yeah. They get very sort of brusque with each other if they're not friends with don't know each other, and then in the comfort of their own home amongst their friends, then they just soften into themselves a little bit. So maybe that's just a front.

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You can't you came to uh like our our our boys uh like barbecue meet day last week or whatever it was. Meet day, meet day, meet day. There's a there's a lot of a lot of straight guys there. Yes, they are the zestiest people they've ever met.

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I will second that. They are.

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Like, if I was just introduced to that group of people, I'd be like, oh, so everyone's gay?

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I love this little bear club you have going on here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's it's insane.

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And how often they want to get their shirts off and stuff.

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Yeah, it's super See. Do you know what? That's actually really funny because you would think that the the like the gays are like gays. Yeah, we're all hanging out, let's all get gay and naked, or like take our shirts off. No, I've never been No, it's the opposite. No one's gayer than straight men, honestly. Because then you think about it, what are their traditions? They take down their pants as to sure do. To uh when Daryl Braithwaite Horses comes on. We'll be riding them with pants. They love to hang on a shirt. I'm sorry, they shower together at football.

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I clearly don't go uh out to enough uh straight clubs. Um take off their pants when Daryl Braithwaite Horses comes on. Yeah. Why?

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Wait, is that a thing?

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That's a tradition.

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We don't know about that.

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Oh no, it's is it that's or at least they told you it was the three guys in that room.

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I I'm I honestly don't know what you're referencing.

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I've seen people do it to both. Look, I know you're getting your undies, you're getting your jocks.

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No, if you I know if you if if you lose a game of pull and haven't and you haven't potted a single ball of your own, then pants down. Yeah.

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I know this is just straight men's way of seeing their friends weighing.

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If you hit off the T and don't get it past the T-box, it's pants down.

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Okay.

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So just a side note on that is that I almost did that. Right I got to the uh I just got to the front of the T-box and then it anyway. That's a golf thing.

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Yeah, no, got that.

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Do you know what? Is sport just a way to get guys to take their pants off? Is that what we're hearing? No, because every time you think of every sport, and there's always rules as to why you have to take your pants.

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Oh, now you gotta be naked. Now you gotta take them. I love sport.

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Yeah, it's not um so chess. Anyone play it?

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Chess.

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Chess.

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Yeah. What when do you have to take your pants off? That's pantsless.

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That's yeah, oh, you're playing that special move. Pants down. Oh, I don't

Super Mario Chess And Nerd Joy

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know.

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When do you hit the timer?

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Uh, after you shot.

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When you take your pants off.

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If you run out of time, pants off.

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Is there a time? Is there a time limit in chess?

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Uh so if you're playing like normal chess, yeah, there's like three minutes and you can this is when they're hitting the little stopwatches. I think, but sometimes they count up as well. Um I don't know the full rules. I'm not like a chess fanatic. I just play casually. Um I'm a casual chesser.

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We all take our pants off and play chess.

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Yeah, yeah. Like as the men do. Um, no, because I was just looking at the awesome Christmas gift my family got me, which is Super Mario Chess. Um, which of course, of course, it's like Is it goodies versus baddies?

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Yeah, it is. So it's like um Waluigi. Mario versus Wario, Luigi versus Waluigi's set, but one has Yoshi versus Wa Yoshi. One has pants.

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Is there an evil Yoshi? Surely it has to have a pants.

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Princess versus Wa Princess. Yeah. That's how it is, right?

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Correct. We've got the naming conventions down. Done. Big Nintendo fans. Look at me, look at me go. Yeah.

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Look

School Sprinting And New Shoe Myth

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at me.

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Do you guys remember how in school, speaking of other sports games that we played, there was a really big emphasis, or maybe just at my school, on running and who was the fastest. Uh yeah, and there still is. There still is.

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Because uh so Jason and uh Big Elliott, we constantly have this argument who would be faster in a hundred metres. Sure. Between like us right now. Because it was very important in primary school. And it still is to me.

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I remember being introduced to kids, they're like, oh, this is my friend Maurizio was like the fastest kid in our class, and he had a great name as well. And and he he was like, he was known as like that's the fast kid.

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I've got one question before we end this podcast. Sure. Did you ever beat him when you got brand new shoes?

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Hell no. Not Mauricio, no, no.

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When you get brand new shoes, you're always the fastest.

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And against what? I still know, not against this. Whoa. Streak of a boy. He was fast. Yeah, he's very fast. He was notably fast. He was new every day. He was new shoes fast every day.

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That's what you didn't realise. He was just always wearing new shoes.

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They probably had lightning bolts on them too. And even when he wore them, I tell you what. Wheelies? No. Is that what they call these? Wheelies. Alright,

Wrap Up And Five-Star Ask

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let's finish the broadcast. Off-friend wheelies. Off-friend T Mur. Two wheelies. Well, that's it then. Goodbye.

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Wow, you're you're finishing this faster than the primary school kid.

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Oh, it's just like people know what to do.

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I meant that in a foot race kind of way. Right, right.

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Honestly, just follow us wherever you're listening.

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That's right.

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Social media is irrelevant. So is life. Wow. Sweeping statements here. Um you can play the music. Oh play music. That's right. I forgot the video. I've been waiting and I'm like, how long am I gonna have to play me off? Yeah.

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Anyway, alright, that's all for now. Bye.